i may take my fiance to a meeting.
give them fake names and just see how my fiance reacts.
he's been curious about seeing what i hated so much about the whole thing (not that he'll really understand everything, i mean of course he never will to my extent but)... i'd like to see what an outsiders view on the whole thing would be as well.
Hi. I think it's a good idea.. Especially if you go this Sunday.
I highly recommend taking him to this Sunday's meeting.
Look at the study article they'll be reading:
www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20150715/rapture-anointed-great-tribulation/
Maybe don't give him any warning what will be studied, just say nothing and see how he reacts.. ;)
check his signature... it looks kind of childish/feminine (at least in my part of the world)... is this a grown man's signature for you?.
http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/downloadfile.ashx?guid=9d0ca1dc-1bd6-41c4-9cfc-b1d616d1cc65&type=exhibit&filename=stat.0670.001.0001&fileextension=pdf.
[ My Book of Bible Stories ]
Jehovah answers them by giving brave leaders to help them.
The Bible calls these leaders judges. Joshua was the first judge, and some of the judges after him were named Othʹni·el, Eʹhud and Shamgar. But two of the people who help Israel are women named Deborah and Jael
Deborah is a prophetess. Jehovah gives her information about the future, and then she tells the people what Jehovah says.
Deborah is also a judge. She sits under a certain palm tree in the hill country, and people come to her to get help with their problems.
http://m.wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1101978104?q=deborah+judge&p=par
http://www.jw-archive.org/post/128775480828/frederick-w-franz-and-september-5-1975#disqus_thread
StarTrekAngel -
Could you possibly post this YouTube clip on there for JW's to see?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NPmT-ML-M-g
They can't pretend a BBC interview was faked..
at around 4 minutes into the september 2015 video splane said "for the man and the baby to be part of josephs generation they would have had to have lived at least some time during joseph's lifespan.".
this is the lynchpin of the wt argument, that two lives must overlap to be considered the same generation.. let's take an example of twins who are born just a few minutes apart.
obviously, these twins are the same generation as each other.
A costly mistakeWhen JW Broadcasting was first announced 11 months ago I said at the time it was great news. The worst thing the Governing Body could possibly do was reveal themselves to their doting followers.
It is far easier to respect and admire your leaders when you can’t see or hear them. Having them thrusted at your TV screen or computer monitor in all their bumbling, arrogant, senile, jewelry-flashing glory changes the whole dynamic...
Increasingly it became obvious that Watchtower’s self-imposed time limit on Armageddon had expired, because too much time had passed since 1914 for there to be any survivors among Jehovah’s Witnesses old enough to have memories of the outbreak of World War I.
In fact, at the time of writing in September 2015, only 50 individuals older than 110 years old are known to still be alive.
The first “group” of “this generation” would witness and understand the events of 1914, and the second group would be those who were born before the last individuals in the first group died (hence an “overlapping” generation).If you don’t understand this, it is not due to any failure on your part. It is because it doesn’t make sense.
The teaching rides roughshod over the English language, redefining what “generation” means, and relying on the audience to willfully bypass their logical thinking skills by asserting the incomprehensible as indisputable truth.
After all, if you can arbitrarily insist that a generation can be composed of two groups, why not have three, four, five – on into infinity? The word “generation” quickly loses all meaning.
You can read the whole article here:
http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/david-splane-explains-the-overlapping-generation-teaching-without-actually-explaining-it
are you interested?
looking for a team of armchair activists;.
purpose: to connect everybody to everybody and to get them to connect the big picture about wtbs which is that it is suspected that watchtower has a child pedophile/child porn ring within it.
To the above posts:
My post on page 1 explains where he got this theory from. It was bases on one incident.
The OP was badly worded I feel, there may even be a slight language barrier, but it really is not important to the letter writing campaign.
The template letter doesn't mention it, I'm not entirely sure why he chose to word the OP that way.
Possibly he thought (mistakenly) that that was the only way to get attention to the thread.. Don't know.
The point is, you can quite easily take the letter and kit as a starting point, and then make your own.
If we share ideas, we can improve things and send letters/emails to the same places. The aim is to contact all states in America and maybe MP's in England at a later date. But we need help.
Does anyone want to help, or just pick on the OP and not help us at all? (He has told me it is only a suspicion).
are you interested?
looking for a team of armchair activists;.
purpose: to connect everybody to everybody and to get them to connect the big picture about wtbs which is that it is suspected that watchtower has a child pedophile/child porn ring within it.
Can anyone with an interest in sending letters or emails to encourage various agencies and people to investigate JW's, please PM mrmajic?
We can't do this with just one or two of us..
The letter is provided, there's a resource kit for free, and it won't cost you a cent to send a quick email ;)
www.jehovahs-witness.com/users/451860022/mrmagic
Thank you.
check his signature... it looks kind of childish/feminine (at least in my part of the world)... is this a grown man's signature for you?.
http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/downloadfile.ashx?guid=9d0ca1dc-1bd6-41c4-9cfc-b1d616d1cc65&type=exhibit&filename=stat.0670.001.0001&fileextension=pdf.
... insisting that congregation leaders are qualified to counsel victims (regardless of their experience)
http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/doubts-over-organizational-solidarity-as-disturbing-video-on-handling-suicide-is-leaked
This video shows how well trained the elders are to counsel vulnerable people..
Instructional video for elders: How to shepherd a suicidal widow
I've passed it on to the Royal Commission.
with all the talk about the org's policies and failures regarding child sexual abuse being publically exposed in australia, i thought that it may be a good time to highlight this... i apologise if this has already been discussed, but on the 9th of july the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse in england and wales was opened.
here is some information regarding it's aims.. "about the inquiry.
the inquiry offers an unprecedented opportunity to examine the extent to which institutions and organisations in england and wales have taken seriously their responsibility to protect children.. the inquiry will investigate a wide range of institutions including:.
Helpline launched for abuse survivors ahead of inquiry
" A team of trained counsellors will operate a free dedicated helpline run by the NSPCC for those wishing to give evidence to the Goddard inquiry.
NSPCC chief executive Peter Wanless, said: "Many victims of abuse have been waiting too long for an opportunity to speak out and get justice.
"Many of them will have harrowing stories to tell so we want to make what could be a tortuous journey as easy as possible.
"Our counsellors have vast experience of dealing with sensitive issues so the dedicated helpline will be a vital part of the inquiry's work."
The helpline number is 0800 917 1000.
www.itv.com/news/update/2015-07-09/helpline-launched-for-abuse-survivors-ahead-of-inquiry/
are you interested?
looking for a team of armchair activists;.
purpose: to connect everybody to everybody and to get them to connect the big picture about wtbs which is that it is suspected that watchtower has a child pedophile/child porn ring within it.
Purpose: To connect everybody to everybody and to get them to connect the big picture about WTBS..
I fully support this part.
I think that he has given the wrong impression here. When you read the kit yourself, that 'pedophile ring' theory is totally unimportant to the theme. There are some great lists of resources, it must have taken a while to put together..
His template letter doesn't even mention it. Anyway, let's not throw the baby out with the bath water..
His personal objective or theory won't affect us writing letters, anyway.
I'm helping with research :)
Does anybody want to help bring the Watchtower's policies to the attention of those that could make a difference?
are you interested?
looking for a team of armchair activists;.
purpose: to connect everybody to everybody and to get them to connect the big picture about wtbs which is that it is suspected that watchtower has a child pedophile/child porn ring within it.
Don't worry, I think that is just a personal theory of his, based on the Cano case. The resource kit and letter templates themselves are really interesting. Here is what I think he got the theory from..
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=25zfUmgFDUU
"Police theorize the pictures may be part of an international child pornography ring."
http://amathenia.blogspot.co.uk/2006/06/updated-bethel-elder-arrested.html?m=1
But let's not focus on theories.
I feel that now is a good time to start sending letters and emails to encourage influential people worldwide to look more closely at this cult.
I am working with this guy, he seems all right.
We are just now working on contacting the Boston Globe..
